One of the benefits of becoming a Certified Mental Wellness Coach (CMWC) is our “Weekly Webinar” – where we get together to discuss different aspects of #MentalWellness. This often involves highlights from new studies and Q&A “trouble-shooting” of problems that our clients and customers might be having (such as, “what’s the best approach for helping someone with XYZ”).
The webinars are held on different days and times to accommodate a wide array of global schedules – and are all recorded and archived with the Canvas learning platform at Marietta College (for viewing later if you miss the live meeting).
Some of them are also posted on YouTube – Here is the link to our most recent webinar – on November 8, 2023 we talked about the new report from the Global Wellness Institute on the size of the Mental Wellness Economy (~$200-billion and growing) and then covered a wide range of questions related to mental wellness, microbiome, gut-brain-axis, herbal supplements, and much more!
I’ve also pasted the transcript from our discussion below and provided some highlights of the program so you can get an idea of what the CMWC covers and whether or not it might be a good fit for you to become a CMWC?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Well, hey, everybody
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: good to see you after. After a week off, or a week of not having this webinar I was in Turkey last week, and I did a whole series of media
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: stuff, you know, one day it was all sort of like
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: magazines and newspapers, and you know things like that. And then the next day we went and we did some TV stuff, and it was super super cool
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: to see that that this whole mental wellness story is is sort of percolating around the world. They were super super interested in it. So you know, I talked about all the stuff we talk about here in this course I talked about, you know the microbiome and the gut brain axis. And you know that mental wellness isn’t just a brain thing. It’s really a gut brain thing and a heart brain thing. So it was. It was a couple of of really tiring days.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: because because everything had to be. Everything had to be translated, you know. So it was a lot of like me talking, you know. Blah blah blah! And then somebody saying, blah blah blah and Turkish, you know. So there was a lot of a lot of that going back and forth, but it was
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: It was very gratifying to see that
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that that this story is is is is growing globally. And so in that vein. I wanted to share a couple of things with you before I sort of open it up and we have our. We have our. We have our chit chat. So right now happening in Miami.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: What I was supposed to do is go to Turkey for a couple of days, and then go to Qatar for a couple of days, and participate in the
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: in the global wellness summit, which is the big wellness convention that that the global Wellness Institute puts on every year. But because that part of the world is in a little bit of turmoil right now. They canceled the Qatar event and moved it to Miami, and it just didn’t work for me to like. Go from Turkey to back to here, to Miami, to where I have to be next week, which is in Mexico. So II bowed out of that. But every year at the global wellness summit.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: they, the global Wellness Institute, releases their New Year annual report, basically the 2023. So this is the 2023 global wellness economy report and what they what they cover in there is
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: what the wellness economy is doing all around the world. And they they have all these different sectors, right? So they’ve got a nutrition sector. They’ve got a Spa sector. They’ve got a real estate sector, everything everything all around, all around wellness, and they have a mental wellness sector. And obviously I’ve been watching that closely for the for the last few years. The first year that they identified mental wellness as its own sector
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: was 2,019, and in 2,019 I’m actually going to. I’m going to see if I can do this. I want to share this chart with you.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Oh, I can do it. I can share just the chart
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: cool. Okay, so can you guys, can you guys see that that that graph right now on your screens? Okay, cool. So this is just one graph from this whole report, and I already posted the report in the discussion section of canvas. So you can download the whole report if you want to. If you go to the Global Wellness Institute’s website. You can download the report. You can download all the different charts if you want to. This, I think, is probably gonna be the most interesting chart for
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: for us, as sort of had mental wellness coaches. but you can see the first year that they
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that they that they put numbers to this. It’s a hundred 30 billion dollars. During the pandemic, right? So through through 2020, mostly, and 2021, a little bit the mental wellness sector was actually the only sector of 12 different sectors that they that they chart in the in this, in this
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: in this wellness economy that grew during the course of the pandemic right? So spas went down for obvious reasons, because we were all, you know, Lockdown and Social distanced. The only one that increased was was mental. Well, being. And that’s really cool. I say this all the time, you know, mental wellness was a big issue pre pandemic
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know, hundreds of millions of people needing to feel better and improve their mood and reduce their stress and bolster their resilience and all that kind of stuff. But the pandemic put a really really fine point on it, and a lot of things that popped during the pandemic like
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: immune system. Health and antioxidants and things like that popped, but then went went right back down. You don’t see this with mental wellness, you see it increasing even more. And so we’re we’re right here now to 2,023. It’s a little bit over 200 million dollars. I’m sorry. 200 billion dollars globally. And it’s expected to have a compound annual growth rate of of almost 13%
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: year over year over year. So by $2,027330,000,000,000. Almost. You know, more than more than double from when when they first started tracking it. So I will just wanted to share that with you guys. There’s a whole section in the report about mental wellness.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and it’s like I said, it’s it’s it’s it’s cool to see this
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: to see this sort of spreading around and growing, and more people becoming aware of it. And and you know, I think we can look back, you know in 5 years time and say that that we all, you know because we we have this training that we have. Now, we’re we’re the early adopters. And that’s gonna be good for us. It’s gonna be good for the people that we’re helping. It’s gonna be good for everybody. So let me know if there’s any questions about that like, I said. I put it in the chat, or
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I put it in the discussion group. So you can download it straight from there. You can ask questions about it. I haven’t read the whole report yet. I’ve sort of like like leafed through it quickly. There’s a lot of really good data in there. So what I’ll do over this next week or so? I’ll be on. I’ll be on another airplane on Monday, and I’m gonna go through it on the plane, and I’ll put a I’ll put a highlighted version up there and highlight any
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know any any nuances, I think, are particularly important for you guys to to understand. Okay.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: so let’s go. Let’s go and and and
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: chit chat. We’ve got a we’ve got a good number of people here. I got a bunch of questions this week about
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: about this webinar, right? People people getting confused that like, you know. Well, what time is it out, and what day is it on? And the reason that we move it around on different days and different times is, try to try to accommodate as many schedules as possible. If we had it every single day at, you know. Let’s say it was noon East Coast time on Wednesday
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: there’d be some people who could make that every week, and some people could never make it. And so that’s why sometimes I put it on Wednesdays, sometimes on Thursdays, sometimes on Mondays, sometimes in the day, sometimes in the evening. If there are other times that that you guys would love to see one so that you can participate. Live.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: then let me know. It’s I mean, it’s easy enough for me to, you know. Make it a make it a different time. This just this just seems to work for a lot of people. It’s also it’s not required. There’s th. There was a little bit of
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: a little bit of nervousness. I guess that people thought that this, that this was a required part like you had to be here as if I was gonna take attendance or something like that. So there’s nothing like that. This is this is just this is just completely voluntary to get in to learn about, you know, like the last couple of weeks we’ve talked about new scientific papers that have come out on leaky gut or on glyphosate, or on whatever, and there’s always a new paper coming out right? So, in fact, there was a really cool paper that came out last week
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that finally was able to identify the relationship of the microbiome to the production of oxytocin. This is something that’s been suspected for a long time, but no one’s been able to really sort of dial in. And this this group of researchers was able to find out what specific class of bacteria in the microbiome is responsible for the production of of oxytocin and how it works. They.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: the bacteria sends a signal to the gut lining a particular cell in the gut lining starts producing oxytocin. So that’s cool. Right? So over the last few years, we’ve learned how to do that for serotonin. So we can treat depression. We’ve learned how to do that for dopamine. So we can help people with motivation. We’ve learned how to and and maybe addictions. We’ve we’ve learned how to do that for Gaba. So
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: so we can help people with stress and relaxation and and falling asleep. And now we can do that. We can do it with Melatonin right, 80% of your melatonin is made in the gut, and we know how to tweak that. And now we know how to tweak it with with oxytocin. And so for people who don’t know what oxytocin is. Sometimes it’s called the connection hormone or the cuddle hormone. It’s the hormone that is really high
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: right after birth, right? And it’s there to help mom and baby to connect with each other. But it’s also high after sex. It’s also high. When you’re falling in love. It’s high when you’re when you’re being really sort of empathetic with another person. And so it’s a it’s oxytocin is one of those things that we had sort of
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: a sort of a deficiency of during the pandemic, because we were all socially distant from each other. Right? We we usually get higher oxytocin levels when we’re in groups. So when you go to a concert, for for example.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and you’re having a group experience around the music, one of the reasons that you feel so good to be in that group is because of oxytocin. It’s thought to be one of the reasons that that humans became social creatures is that we produce oxytocin that makes us want to be with each other more, being with each other. More. We cooperate when we cooperate. We’re able to, you know, bring down the
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: wildebeest, or you know you got you guys get it right. It’s a it’s a very pro-social hormone. And during the pandemic.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: We were away from each other. We weren’t looking each other in the eye. We were half of our faces were covered right? So you didn’t get those social cues of, you know, of smiling at somebody in the grocery store, or something like that. You you get oxytocin sometimes with with little occasions of touch, you know, if somebody touches you on the shoulder, or, you know rubs your back, or you know or, you know, makes it, you know, emphasizes something
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: touch, you know, touches you on the touches you on the forearm, or something like that. Those are all things that can help increase oxytocin. And now we’re understanding how how the whole gut brain access is involved in that. So I’ll highlight that paper as well, and post that up, and maybe maybe talk about it some more on the on the call next week. Okay, so this call is always recorded. It’s always posted in canvas.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Sometimes I also post it. If we talk about interesting stuff, sometimes I post it on Youtube so that the you know the wider world can, you know, see what we’re talking about? But the real reason for these for these weekly webinars is to do troubleshooting. You know. You might have a client that has a particular, particularly, you know rough collection of things. And you and we wanna we wanna you know, collectively say, like, you know, what should we do for this person?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: You know. So it’s, you know, sort of a sort of a sounding board for everybody. Okay, so let me see if there’s any any questions in here. It’s one am in Italy. That’s terrible.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Francisca. You should know you should know how important sleep quality is. Right. There’s a whole mind.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I’m just a wise guy, I know you know how important it is. So if tell me a better time that where we can accommodate you know the European crowd, if we if we need to do that. Okay, but but if anybody wants to unmute and or or raise your hand, and I can unmute you. We can. We can have a little chit chat, and you can always put your stuff in the in the, in the
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: in the chat room. And last thing is the the registration for the November cohort is supposed to close tonight. At midnight.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Julie’s Julie’s my wife, who handles all the registrations. She’s gotten a lot of people who have said, You know, can you hold it over until the weekend? So I think we’re probably gonna not close it down tonight. I don’t know if I’m gonna announce that or that it’s gonna stay open or not. But it’s not gonna close tonight at midnight. So if you know, people who want to sign up for for this class.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: It’s $500 is still the tuition. It’s going up next year. So we’re increasing it to $600 for the cohort that’ll start in January. So if you know anybody who’s kind of on the fence, and they’re able to do it now and save $100. They don’t have to do the course now. They can sign up for it now and then. Just start doing the modules whenever you know it’s self-paced. You guys have all been through
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: mit Ctl, and some of you have finished. Some of you are still partway through, but it’s self-paced, so you could sign up now and not start until after Christmas, if that’s
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: if that’s what you need to do. And the whole reason for the for the increase in price is just. It cost us money to run canvas. It costs us money to have zoom. It costs us money to have the the the audio transcripts. You know all that, all that kind of stuff. So we’re we’re we’re trying to. We’re trying to keep up with the with the expenses. So okay, so, colleen, you are. First in line with your hand up.
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Colleen Sullivan: hey? Hey?
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Colleen Sullivan: How are you? I’m great looking forward to seeing you in Mexico. Oh, good hurray! We’ll have to have a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Margarita. Happy is the new sexy t-shirt, Dr. Shawn. I’ll do that
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Colleen Sullivan: because I got 10, nice. That’s awesome. Yeah. Do you know, Michael Fronte, that’s where I got it. I got it concert. So many people asked me about it after convention, cause I wore it on stage. I went and looked on the website, and it was sold out. Yup.
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Colleen Sullivan: So yeah, they he came to Atlanta, and II went to see him. Yeah, it was awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Such a good vibe at those shows. Oh.
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Colleen Sullivan: I know we need to get him to perform at for Amari. Yeah, talk about oxytocin right? He’s just. He exudes a lady who’s pregnant, and, as you know, families with Adhd.
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Colleen Sullivan: and she reached out to me and said, I’m pregnant. I went off my Viv ants. I’m really struggling. What can I do? That’s safe while I’m pregnant and postpartum
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Colleen Sullivan: she’s just kind of like a hot mess.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So I know, like our products are safe for pregnancy. But I just wanted to get your take on it. Yeah. So so here’s here’s where I here’s where III laugh a little bit, you know. People will ask me all the time, you know. Are these herbs safe in pregnancy? And so, for you know, for some of the for some of the real, more potent sort of like medicinal herbs.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: The question is, we don’t know, like they’ve never been studied during pregnancy. And so, you know, things like things like kana or rifuma, which is really really effective, for like antidepressant effects, or you know, there’s a there’s a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Kana Rafuma magnolia bark.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Ashwaganda, you know, are all sort of in that category of medicinal herbs. They’re not part of the food supplies. You can’t really say like, people been eating them since since the beginning of time.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So so we just don’t know, but you also don’t know for Prozac, or Vivance, or Ritalin, or like none of those, have been studied during pregnancy either, you know. So it’s
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know you can’t assume that the drug that is being prescribed is is safe. You know. We don’t make that assumption when we’re talking about Herbals.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: but you can make the assumption for nutritionals. So when we talk about things like corn grass and tryptophan, you know, an amino acid thionine
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: mit ctl and saffron, basil, oregano. Like all that kind of stuff, those are all food ingredients, and they have been part of the food supply since the beginning of time. So those ones. Yes, we can say those ones are. Those ones are safe
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: for Adhd, so so colleen is is she pregnant now, or is she? Or she has delivered. And she’s postpartum.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: She’s pregnant. Okay? And if she’s gone off her vivance, then she’s gonna have a really difficult time, because going off of those kinds of drugs, vivans and concerta and ritalin and adderall, and all that kind of stuff. There’s a big drop off, you know, sort of a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I won’t say withdrawal effect, but it’s noticeable when you’re off of them. So I would say things like, you know, the the the very
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: like most logical thing for her to try would be would be saffron, right? So so kids from the Amari line that’d be that’d be kids. Mood.
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Colleen Sullivan: Yeah, that’d be the easiest one for her to do.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I don’t think it’s going to give her the same effect as vivance, though from from a focus perspective it probably will. But because a lot of these Adhd drugs are stimulants, you probably have to pair that with something else that has stimulation effects. And I would say to do something like like energy
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: or even more. If you can get your hands on in the kiani line, there’s a product called on.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: which stands for optimize
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: nootropic. I think the On the ON. Stands for something we actually have some plans to take some of those ingredients out of on and put them into a different Amari product.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So in that product is that there’s a mushroom called Lion’s Main. That’s really good for focus. There’s an ingredient called citicoline. That’s really good for focus. And and and it also has 100 milligrams of caffeine right which is going to which is going to give that stimulant effect. So I think I think a reasonable
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: combo
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: to to sort of replace replace her, Vivan. So we like. We’ve we’ve had a whole seminar. As we’ve talked about the danger of saying like this, herb replaces this drug right? We don’t want to go there. But she already stopped the drug. So how can we give her really good focus? I would say, try to get some on add in energy, plus to to give
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know sort of like mental energy.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And and then and then kids mood plus, and that would give a really really sort of safe
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: nutritional profile without having to use some of the some of the medicinal herbs that are out there.
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Colleen Sullivan: Okay, great
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Colleen Sullivan: While you’re talking. I had 2 questions. The Keani on because it has 100 milligrams of caffeine. That’s okay for recommendation, for you know,
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: when, when when you’re pregnant, usually recommended to stay off a caffeine, that’s hard for a lot of women. So what I’ll say is, don’t do any more than 2 cups of coffee, you know. That’s a personal choice. Whether you want to do that or not do that. I know plenty of women who are like II can’t go cold turkey on my coffee, so I say at least, don’t do any more than 2 cups and 2 cups of coffee is gonna be about 200 to 400 milligrams depending on how it’s brewed.
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Colleen Sullivan: And then the energy plus, would you for adh? Adhd, I like the pomegranate line because of the Yusa.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Same. Okay? Yeah. Yeah. The difference between those 2. I was actually just on a call where I was explaining the difference between the 2 energies to somebody. The pomegranate lime. I refer to that as activated energy and the dragon fruit, I refer to that as relaxed energy and the main. The main main difference there is, you know, why you saw is sort of gonna help with mental awareness, and sort of brings you from low to up, if you will.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And the and the glycine royibose comp combination. It doesn’t. It doesn’t. It doesn’t only relax you, but it gives you relaxed alertness. I actually sometimes I’ll take when I go on a long bike ride. I take one bottle with with pomegranate lime, and I take one bottle with dragon fruit, and I just I just go back and forth between them, and it gives you a really nice sort of like.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Just you don’t get. You don’t get too agitated. You don’t get too energized, but you also don’t get too calm. You’re sort of like right there in the middle where you want to be
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: okay. And I’m not familiar with the on. But I think I’m gonna actually try it. Is that a liquid? It’s a liquid, yeah. And and depending on which one you get, they used to be in little bottle little bottles like almost like almost little 5 h energy bottles, and then they move to pouches, you know. So they’re it’s you know. So, depending on which one you get, you might get, you might get one or the other. There’s 2 flavors.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, and then you would combine that with, not combine it like, take it together, but in your regimen combine it with the energy, like, I’m yeah. I would even say, like, Try try trying. Try going with energy and mood, energy and kids mood to start with and see if that gives her enough of an effect. And if it doesn’t, if it’s not sort of like
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: potent enough as as her vivance. Then add the on after that.
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Colleen Sullivan: Perfect. Okay. thanks so much. And my pleasure.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Alright. Who’s next? Here, Beth.
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Beth Berg: Hi.
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Beth Berg: so I just have a quick question about one of my customers. She ordered. Happy juice. She was super excited about it for her Adhd.
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Beth Berg: like Sweetener, and and it lasts all day like an after effect in her mouth, from a sweetener
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Beth Berg: Stevie. I don’t know. What is it? Called Stevia Stevia leaf right.
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Beth Berg: anyway. She took it and couldn’t handle it like it just bothered her mouth.
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Beth Berg: I’m assuming. Maybe she’s a allergic to.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Yeah, so was it, was it just that it was it was too sweet for her, or was it, or was it.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that that she was having some other cause like with Stevia. One of the problems is that it’s it’s so much sweeter than sugar I can’t mix. So here’s a glass like this is the glass that I mix my happy juice up in the morning, but I can’t mix all 3. I can’t mix well, 2 2 that are flavored. I can’t put edge and energy in the same glass, and the same whatever. This is 16 ounce glass. That’s way too sweet for me.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And so like, if I’m gonna have both of those at the same time, I have to have a much bigger volume like I’ve gotta have 20 or 24 ounces of stuff just because it’s it’s overly sweet for me. Some people will take it an even smaller volume, and because they want more sweet, that’s it. But that’s just a personal preference thing. But it could also be Stevia, for some people is, is really really has a has a strong, bitter after taste. So do you think it’s that? Do you think it’s more the bitter after taste that she’s that she’s seeing?
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Beth Berg: Yeah, that’s what I think, like she basically, I bought her product off of her because she’s like, I don’t want it. And I just thought it would be easier for me to buy it off of her, because.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah. So she tried it for a few days. I totally just diluted as much as you want. That was good advice. Yeah. So she’s looking for something for Adhd, and and happy juice wasn’t doing it for her. What you might want to do is go back kind of to what I was saying to to colleen is
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: kids mood that saffron really is probably the the the first choice for somebody who’s trying to solve a focus issue like that.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And so, you know, you could, you could take the approach of saying, Well, let’s try one and see if it does it for you if it doesn’t, let’s try one in one. So one in the morning, one in the afternoon
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: then the next step would be add on something like an energy plus, and I think there, if you chose the pomegranate lime, it has a little bit of sugar in it, so the amount of Stevia is really really low, so that one might, she might tolerate a little bit better. So that combination of taking kids mood plus twice a day along with energy, plus that might be the sweet spot for her. No pun intended.
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Beth Berg: Does that make sense? Yeah, as I’ll try and see if she’s willing like when I when she was done. She’s like I’m done. No, it’s no work. I can’t do it. So just curious about that, because, like she says her sister is the same way like they just are really sensitive suite.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: The other thing she could do if she, if she doesn’t want to do something that’s sweet flavored is is is go with go with mental focus. So mental focus will also have focus benefits. Right? So that’s gonna help her. Adhd, but it also has memory benefits.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and so that that could be a like a like a different sort of a bunch of benefits for her. You know. Sometimes people who have, you know, dementia and things like that will say, Let’s take. Let’s take, you know, focus twice a day. I have a lot of you know, I’m a I’m a I’m a bike racer. So I have a lot of bike racer friends who have crashed their bikes. And I’ve had concussions, traumatic brain injuries.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and I’ll tell them to take meant to focus twice a day and take it before they ride, and it works works wonders for them to help them focus and less brain fog. And you know that kind of stuff. So sometimes with Adhd or people who say they have Adhd, what they actually have is brain fog. And that’s different than Adhd meant to focus works really, really well on brain fog. And so you might try that. And she, you know, might find that you know that it, that it sort of solves her issue.
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Beth Berg: Yeah, I think that’s actually the best option is really just to try the pills, because there’s
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: there’s no chance of her tasting anything sweet. Yeah.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: okay, yeah. No problem. Let me go in the chat real quick and see if and see if there’s anything there, and then we’ll go back to the -oh.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Who? I thought I thought I thought II thought I turned everybody off.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: okay, let’s see, is there a link to send someone who wants to do the course? If you just go to my blog. So either Sean Talbot com or bestfutureu.com. It’s
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: It’s one of the it’s one of the first ones that you’re going to see in the blog section. And there’s a registration link right there. Okay.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: so let’s see what Francis is saying in Italy the mental wellness issue is less felt as in the Us. While the weight loss is a major issue where there’d be the opportunity for Mari partners to get the Gbx fit and Gbx burn to have the opportunity to open, start offering some solutions on the mental wellness starting from the weight loss. I don’t know, Francisco, that’s a that’s a good question. I would I would talk to
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I would talk to Jen Stoll, who’s who’s in charge of your market, and see when those I’m not sure when those products are slated to launch
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: fit and burn. But they’re you know, they’re they’re not just weight loss products, right as you as you indicate in your in your question, right? It’s a it’s a mental wellness approach to weight loss because it works gut, brain axis, changing signals, increasing the the natural production of glip one right, which is the thing that Ozmik works on so sort of a natural. You know Nature’s Ozmik, if you will. And there was another paper that I read this this past week.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: showing that Glip, one agonists like Ozmik, have an antidepressant effect. Right? And so it’s it all comes back to the gut, you know, even if you’re injecting yourself with a synthetic version of this of this appetite hormone, it’s it’s you know. The signals are going back and forth across the gut brain axis. So you know, you’re getting appetite effects. You’re getting metabolism effects. You’re getting mood effects. And so you know. Do you want to inject yourself with a synthetic version? Or do you want to take a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: a probiotic that’s going to get you to make more of it. Naturally, I think a lot of people would take the natural approach if they, if they knew that it was, it was proven and effective so. But I would talk to. I would talk to Jen. She would even be more in charge of when those kinds of products are gonna launch in that market or not.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Kiki Don says, what is the difference with Omega and sunset
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: for high cholesterol? So Omega and sunset are are are very different products. I think I have them both here on my desk.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I love them both, so Omega is the fish oil product from on the Amari side.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Sunset is the fish oil product on the Keani side, but it’s not just fish oil. It also has ingredients called tocotrianols, and it also has an Antioxidant algae extract called Astazanthen. So I like them both. I actually the way I that I take them. I take one on one night and one on the next night, and one on the next night, and one on the next night. I just alternate them. We will eventually
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: merge these 2 products together, and so it’ll it’ll Omega will go away. But the Omegas in here will go in here, and sunset will will keep the tocotrianols. Keep the astrazanthen, but we’ll have a higher content of these ultra pure omega threes. So that’s that’s how they’re same, but different.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: They don’t really help with cholesterol. They’ll help really well with triglycerides, so triglycerides are the fat in your blood, and so it’s a little counterintuitive that you can take fat.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and it will lower the fat in your blood, but that’s but that’s how it works. A better way to lower cholesterol would be the ingredients that are in mental heart. So mental heart has. Has an orange extract in it called bergamot orange, that lowers cholesterol like crazy.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: You could expect someone’s cholesterol to come down probably 30%, which is great for a natural product. If you go on a statin.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: You know one of these, one of these, one of these cholesterol medications, your cholesterol might come down 70%.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: But the side effects are fatigue and muscle, pain and brain fog. And I actually just had a friend really really fit friend who went on his doctor measures cholesterol. His Ldl. Was high. He said you really should go on this, and he didn’t want to do it, didn’t want to do it. Finally his doctor convinced him, and he went on it.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and he had to get off in a month because he couldn’t even go to the gym anymore. This is a guy who would go to the gym every single day super super fit Guy and the side effects of fatigue and muscle pain. He was just achy all the time. It was completely killing his quality of life.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So he went. He went off of that, went on, went on mental heart, and his cholesterol came down enough where now he doesn’t need to need to need the cholesterol medication. So yeah, bergamot orange is high in these compounds called Pmfs polymethoxylated flavones, and they work in the liver
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: to reduce your body’s production of cholesterol. So that. And that’s what the problem is, if somebody has high cholesterol. It’s not because you’re eating cholesterol. It could be because you’re eating a lot of saturated fat. So like, if you’re eating a lot of bacon cheese, Burgers. You should stop doing that. That’s going to increase your cholesterol levels. But eggs aren’t going to, you know. Increase your cholesterol. That’s sort of a that’s sort of a myth.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Most people have high cholesterol, especially high bad cholesterol. Ldl, it’s because your liver produces too much of it, and that’s why the drugs work so effectively. It reduces the the production of cholesterol. That’s exactly what these Pmfs do. But again, it’s a sort of a natural way to get your body to be back in balance. So I would suggest I would suggest mental heart versus versus these, but these are good for general heart health. They’re good for blood flow. They’re good for blood pressure. They’re good for
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: they’re good for a general anti-inflammatory effect. The tocotrianols and the Astoxanthin are great antioxidants. So there’s all kinds of reasons that these are heart healthy.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: But cholesterol isn’t, isn’t one of them. I would I would take meant to heart for that effect.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, let me do one more question in here in the chat, and then we’ll go back to the
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: room. And then a couple of people commenting on on on Patty. You’ve been doing your reading. II saw these, and I was like, -oh! So Patty’s question is, is there chaparral or comfree in any of the Amari products. No, absolutely not.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Yeah. So those are 2. Those are 2 things that are really really bad for the liver? They can. They can actually lead to liver, liver, dysfunction, liver enzymes go up potentially. Liver failure in in in certain people who are who are affected. So yeah, we don’t. We don’t have any of those. In fact.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Mit, Ctl and part of our quality control process. You know, we we test for pesticides, and we test for heavy metals, and we test for active ingredients. And we test, for
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know, pathogens like salmonella and E coli, and all that kind of stuff, but we also do something that’s called identity testing. So when you get when you get a barrel of of
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: powdered herb.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: it looks it looks like, you know, it’s orange, or it’s brown, or it’s green, or it’s gray, or whatever it is. You don’t necessarily know what that is. It’ll be labeled, and you’ll get a certificate of analysis. But we have a policy of trust. But verify where we say, okay. It says that it’s saffron.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: but we’re going to. We’re going to send it out for for third party analysis to confirm that it’s saffron and identity testing. We’ll come back and it’ll tell us it’s 100% saffron or, God forbid. It’s 50% saffron. And we have to figure out what the other 50% is. And identity testing will find that kind of stuff it’ll find. Is it contaminated with
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: compreh or chaperl, or something something that you don’t want? So yeah, it’s something that not all companies do it, but it’s it’s it’s an important thing to do because you could. There are plenty of examples across the nutraceutical industry of somebody taking. Here. Here’s green tea is a good example of this. So there are some examples of green tea causing liver failure right? And that doesn’t make any sense at all, because green tea is actually high in these compounds called catechons.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: which are antioxidants, which are good for good for the liver. So why in the world would green tea lead to liver failure? These people who got the liver failure absolutely took the green tea product. When you know, sort of sort of forensic analysis. You go back. You get the product. You put it through the right kind of testing, and you find that it’s contaminated with things like confreon chaperel.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And so it’s not the green tea that’s causing the problem. It’s the contaminant, because, whatever the company was that was selling that didn’t think it was important to, you know, sort of double double check what they were getting in their in their supply stream. So you know, that’s that’s a really important thing that
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: like, I said, not a lot of companies test that kind of stuff.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, so let let’s go back here. And, Patty, you’re up next.
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Patty Sherwood: Thank you. That is helping so much. But
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Patty Sherwood: you’ve now you’ve asked open more doors. My liver enzymes have been up for 2 years. They did the blood test. It’s not my bones, and it’s not showing my lever. So I’m going for an ultrasound. That’s why I started researching all the stuff and came up, that because I knew my doctor is going to be like, what are you on? What are you taking?
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Patty Sherwood: So you said that Cl. And my cholesterol is also high, and we’ve been treating that. I went off Ldl, same thing with your friend, only I have fibromyalgia, and I thought
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Patty Sherwood: that the
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Patty Sherwood: help me the meds at the thank you. Yeah. it made it 10 times worse. I mean, I was like your friend. I could not move. It was devastating. So I thought, This is ridiculous. But now, after reading this and hearing that I’m taking mental heart, and have been taking it for about 4 months now.
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Patty Sherwood: My Ldl. Was still up 2 weeks ago when I went. she setting me for an ultrasound for my liver. Is there anything else I can be doing that we have access to. I’m all Amari.
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Patty Sherwood: so is there anything else I should be doing that could be helping with this. I’m
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Patty Sherwood: I’m a little flustered with the whole thing, and
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I know she’s gonna say meds, and I’m gonna say, no, not happened in There is. Let me
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: what? What, what, what, what would this be?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I can’t think of the name of right now. I’m having a total senior moment. I should take more. I should take more of these products I have over here.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah, I know exactly what you should take, but I can’t think of the name of it right now. It’s a it’s a it’s a it’s a it’s an even higher, even higher than bergamot orange in those in those
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: in those Pmfs. What! What the heck is it? It’ll it’ll come to me before, so as soon as I as soon as the light bulb goes off, I’ll I’ll I’ll tell you what it is
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: perfect.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and it’s not, and and and I’ll and I’ll say this, it’s not in the Abari product line right now. It’s so funny you’re asking this question because I’m talking what day is today? Today’s Wednesday.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I’m talking to the guy whose company sells this stuff on Friday. So hopefully, it’ll be part of our product line at some point. But it but it isn’t right now.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: so it’ll it’ll it’ll come to me in a minute.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, let’s go. Let’s go to A. J.
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AJ Wheeler: Hello, Hello! Hello! Hey? A. J. Here from Maryland. Thank you so much. Doctor Sean.
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AJ Wheeler: got a good question here. I don’t think you’ve ever had this one.
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AJ Wheeler: I am my partner and I are are conducting a workshop on mental wellness, and I’d like it to be interactive with something that people can do right in the workshop and gain benefit.
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AJ Wheeler: And I was looking at cognitive behavioral stress management
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AJ Wheeler: from your. I think it was the exercise portion, right? So you you know things like box breathing. I mean, you know, that would qualify, of course. Right? Is that what we’re talking about? Yup, Yup, exactly. Yeah. So cognitive behavioral stress management is a whole field.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know. So there are people that specialize in cognitive behavioral therapy. And there’s a I mean, there are a zillion flavors of it. So you know, some of the simplest are are just are breath techniques right relaxation techniques. So anything from box breathing.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Do you know what a physiological psi is?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: That’s a really effective way to reduce stress. So physiological sigh is sort of you know. You have. People sit, you know, sit in a chair, feet flat on the ground, you know. Get get a nice comfortable position.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know. So you breathe in for 4. Let’s say you hold it for 4, you breathe out for 4. You hold it for 4, you know, or 5 or 6, or however, you want to do that physiological size a little bit different where you breathe in.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: here, breathe in again. So it’s sort of like a double double filling of your lungs. That seems to be really really effective at not just general relaxation, but shutting off your stress response. If you’re having like like a panic attack right now.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So so that’s something you might wanna sort of integrate in There’s a fun thing that I like to do with people that’s called. It’s called proprioception
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: which is just sitting quietly and listening to different parts of your body. So when you’re doing proper reception, you’re trying to listen to your heartbeat. You’re trying to listen to your breathing. You’re trying to listen to, you know. I mean, like, literally, like the blood flowing through your veins like that kind of stuff.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And so sometimes we’ll have people do proper steps and techniques at night to help them, help them relax and go to sleep, and one of the one of the like most common ones, is to do a progressive body part relaxation.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: You might start at your toes, and you try to relax your toes and feel what your toes are doing, and then go to your ankles and then feel that.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and then go to your shins, and you can feel that you know you can get as in in depth as you want to like, feel the cool sheets on your shins, feel the heavy blanket on your knees like, and you just go step by step by step by step, and it’s funny because people will come back. You really like, how did that work for you? And they’re like, Yeah, it was great. I didn’t get past my thighs, and I was asleep, you know, so like, you know, any of those little things those all fall under the umbrella of cognitive behavioral therapy.
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AJ Wheeler: Got you so just to dovetail on that. My partner. She’s also a professional bassist. So we’re trying to bring the music aspect fantastic, great. So I wanna get a good. You know, Vibe, going where people can feel the relaxation with the music, this can be done, of course, with music. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. When people come here for our retreats right here to here to our Amari Wellness Center.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: We take them for a what’s what’s called a sound bath, and we have 2 really cool hippies. Who who are?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Who are? What are they? During the day? They’re like normal people during the day, and they only become hippies at night. they’re like, occupational therapists is what they are right. So they have these professional jobs where they’re in like business attire. And then you see them in there sort of flowing robes and stuff like that at night. It’s awesome.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: but they have you know they do sound therapy right where the vibrations of these instruments, you know, and they’re not using a bass, but that that’s that’s the same deal, right? They’ll use rain sticks and drums and gongs and all kinds of stuff, but like the vibration of music, is absolutely doing the same kind of stuff. So that’s that’s brilliant that you’re gonna bring that in.
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AJ Wheeler: That’s wonderful. Thank you. Are there? Thank you. Are there any like Amari, or any any references that you could push me to direct me towards music and workshops. Mental wellness?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: N, not really. I don’t. We like we haven’t. We haven’t delved into that yet, but it’s but it’s definitely it’s definitely a legit world out there, you should. I think you should be able to find a lot of stuff that’s good. That’s good that she she has written a book. It’s called Play confidently Quiet, your inner critic. She fought some social anxiety and found actually groups of people that know how to play, but they have performance confidence
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AJ Wheeler: right now. Recently, and after 4 years of being on Kayani Amari, she’s had to have no depression meds until this week.
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AJ Wheeler: past depression that had come on from she had maybe 3 episodes in her life, one at 14, and then again in twenties.
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AJ Wheeler: and she kinda knows the signs. So instead of just going full holistic, she felt that she needed this little extra piece. So they placed her on 20 grams of
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Xanax Lexa pro lexa pro. Okay?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Is there a better regimen to either speed it up or not. Yeah. Lex is tough, because it’s it’s a it’s it’s a it’s a potent, it’s it’s it’s strong, you know. So even if so, she’s not 20 milligrams.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: She does well on 10, and she asked for 10, but they wrote her for 20.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Yeah, it’s so so tell her this, like, I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna recommend something. But tell her to not go cold turkey on her. Lexa. Pro right. There’s a couple there’s a couple of
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know, antidepressant, anti-anxiety sort of sort of meds that if you stop them you’ll you’ll you’ll have a panic attack. You might be in the emergency room, and Lexa pro is one of them. So if she ever went off of it, she’d have to wean off of it. So if she’s on 20 she’d have to go down to 10. She’d have to stay there for a while. She’d have to see if she could go down to 5 if she could break in half, or something like that.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: But the the ingredients in mood plus so rufuma, it really helps with with depression.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Hannah really helps with anxiety. Magnolia bark really helps with anxiety. Oshwa Ganda really helps with stress. That
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: combination, I think, could pro would probably be enough if you know what you just described. She’s been doing fine all along. And then, just lately she needed something. You know, that those are the kinds of people that usually do really really well on natural therapies, right where we can say, Hey, maybe we don’t need the sledgehammer necessarily of the pharmaceutical. Maybe we can get by and help somebody navigate a stressful situation with an herbal approach.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So that might be something she might wanna be able to add in so that she could use. Whatever the lowest dose is that gets her to where she needs to be
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AJ Wheeler: good thoughts. Thank you. So
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah, great pleasure. Yeah. And good luck with your programme.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Thank you. All right, let me shoot back up here. So so I found I found Patty.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I found I found the thing that we that I that I wanted to talk to you about. So what is the source of this? It’s Citrus, Pmfs. But I can’t remember what.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Let me click on this one. I know it’s it. I know it’s a citrus extract of some sort. but I’m not finding
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: if it’s a tangerine. I think it’s a tangerine.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah. What you would want to do is go go try to find this product called cholesterinal.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I’ll spell it for you. CHOL.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: ESS. So coalesce
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: trinol-t-r-i, NOL. And I bet if you went and Google that you’d find lots of products that have this as an ingredient in there.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: So I did. I did some studies on click on, on, on this blend years and years ago, and showed that it lowered cholesterol like crazy.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: These Pmfs work like statins. It’s sort of a natural statin. Okay, it’s not as potent as as a statin. But if mental heart and bergamot. That level of Pmfs isn’t doing it for you. This is a higher level of Pmfs that you could give a try.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, and there’ll be lots of products that use that.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, thank you so much.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and let me go. Let me see what time it is. 7, 48 I’ve got. I’ve got to caught another call at the top of the hour, so I have to hop off and jump on that one. But let me go to let me go to Katie. Katie Todd.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, it’s actually me, hey? Alright, hey? How are you still playing soccer now, or are you guys done for the season.
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KatyTodd Randall: We’re we finished with high school season
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KatyTodd Randall: started tryouts. And then we’re starting winter training and stuff now. So yeah, it never ends no rest for the yeah.
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KatyTodd Randall: have you dealt with people that have like strong aversions to anything that’s kind of fruit flavored.
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KatyTodd Randall: Cause this dealt with like I have a friend that she was trying to take like sunrise HL 5 on
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KatyTodd Randall: literally anything that’s fruit flip like fruity
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KatyTodd Randall: makes her gag and almost throws up.
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KatyTodd Randall: what would you kind of recommend for similarities? For a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know, mari stuff to like? Say something like for sunrise or HL, 5 or, yeah, I don’t. I’m actually gonna throw this out to the, to the group and see if you guys have any ideas like, I always I always say to people like.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know, there’s so many personal preferences of some people like this flavor. Some people don’t like that flavor. Some people think this is too sweet. Some people thinks is not sweet enough. Some people have a have a really attuned bitter receptors. And so some of these herbs that we use are too bitter for them, and some people can’t taste them. So II try to get people to hide some of the some of the ingredients in other things like, put it into.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: put it into oatmeal, put it into something that you do tolerate well, and see if you can mask it, but I don’t know. I don’t know if other people have other
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: other approaches that they take. If anybody wants to share
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that’s a good idea.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I joked with somebody earlier today. I said, you’re gonna love the new. We were talking about the Australia market on an Amari call, and I said, they’re gonna love the vegemite flavor, happy juice that we’re coming out with, you know, and somebody in the chat. Well, one person in the chat said that’d be a great April fool’s joke, so we might do that. So now you guys won’t be fooled. But somebody else said that would actually be good, not vegemite, but to do a to do like a savory sort of a flavor of some of the products, and I’m like.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I don’t know we we can do anything as a limited time. Offer.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Add it to sparkling water that that could be it might, it might dilute it. Diluting sunrise with a lot of water.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: You love your vegemite. Someone’s got to love it.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah, so III don’t. I don’t know if that’s gonna help. But yeah, try to try to mask as as much as possible. Freeze the sunrise, Francesca is saying.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that’s interesting.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Never tried that. But you could make a little. You could make a little
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah, maybe try putting other, you know. Cinnamon, or something like that, might might sort of dilute some of the
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: some of the citrus flavors or fruit flavors.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I don’t know. That’s a tough one.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Let me go back into the chat and see if there’s any questions in here.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I’ll collie, and thanks for sharing that about the body scans and the and the breath techniques.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: That’s great. They can be super super effective, like, I mean breathing. You know, all these breath techniques right. What they really do is they activate the vagus nerve right? And so by doing that you are, you are tuning the main
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: hard connection highway between the gut and the brain. Right? So it’s it’s I mean scientifically. It’s not woo at all right. We know exactly how it works. We have, you know it it
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: 2 rooms away from where I’m sitting right now. We’ve got a little, a little lab where we have all these cool techniques that are vagus nerve activators and vagus nerve toners. And they’re basically doing the same exact thing that that breathwork is doing. We’ve got one that you put in your ear and it and it, and it sends an electrical charge into your vagus nerve on the on the left hand side.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Electrical charge into your vagus nerve. And you. It’s it’s a little like torturing yourself. You sit there with this little device, and you turn it up and up and up and up and up, until you can feel it, and it’s sending an electrical charge into your eardrum. Not you’re your drum, but your vagus nerve is really close to the surface here and it, and it activates your vagus nerve. And you can feel this relaxation effect. We have other things that sit on your sternum and vibrate and and activate or tone your vagus nerve that way.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: you know. So vagus nerve vagus nerve interventions are getting all sort of techie and whizbang, and they’re connected to apps, and you can track your progress. And that’s awesome, for lots and lots of people are going to really love that. But
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: getting a breathwork practice is is the is. The is the low tech way to do it. And it’s it’s been proven for for thousands of years. So pretty cool stuff.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: I have. Someone has issues with fruit and stomach issues and the fruit bothers them, you know. So this, this lace Lacey, what we just what we just talked about might might help with that. As well
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: yeah, this is a good one. So Francis Francisca put in here sunrise sort of on an empty stomach.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Might might give people problems, so suggest it with after a breakfast
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and that can, or with a yogurt or something like that. And that goes for a lot of nutraceuticals right? So think about. And this is maybe the last thing that I’ll that I’ll say, unless there’s any other burning questions a lot of times we will as mental wellness coaches. We’ll get people who aren’t very healthy
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: or aren’t eating very well.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and they’ve talked about this, what I’m going to say a little bit in the context of leaky gut. But even if you don’t have leaky gut right, even if you don’t have any active damage in your gut, and you have somebody who is sort of in a low nutrition state.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: And now they get all excited, and they want to start taking a lot of nutraceutical products. They want to take a happy juice, or they want to take a sunrise, or they want to take. They just want to start eating better right? Whatever whatever the intervention is, gonna be. That’s gonna be a lot more nutrition than their system is used to.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and just adding that in is is sometimes can be too much. And so sometimes we have to have them go slow, you know, if they want to start taking 4 products. We have them start taking one product and see how they do on that for a couple of days, and then go to the second product and the third product and the fourth product. Sometimes we’ll do things like what we just talked about with these recommendations. Have them take it along with food, so that they’re not taking all that nutrition on an empty stomach. It’s just. It’s not that they’re not tolerating that. Well, it’s just that. It’s so much of a
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: of a departure from the low nutrition state than they’re than that they’ve been in before. Okay, so always keep that in mind, like people want to go from 0 to 100, and sometimes we need to sort of pull them back a little bit and have them go from 0 to 20, and then to 40, and then to 60. You guys get the idea. Okay.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: so, Sedalia, let’s let’s have you close it off with the last question of the night. Really quick.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: The problem is, they’re probably not gonna see much of a change in their cholesterol levels because the cholesterol drugs are gonna drop their cholesterol so much, and then they add the natural one in there when they take the cholesterol. So so cholesterol levels are probably gonna stay at that same low level. They’re not gonna drop anymore. When they take the cholesterol medication away. It’s likely that their cholesterol levels will stay down and not start creeping back up again like they typically would.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: But I would say, I would say, don’t have them do us, don’t! Don’t have them go off of the medication and onto. I’d have them take the take the supplement for a couple of weeks before they work with their prescriber to, you know. Figure out the best way to come off of that
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Cidalia Murta: awesome. Thank you. Okay.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Alright. You guys. Well, thanks for joining me tonight. So let me know what’s the Max number of mental heart?
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: that’s a good question, I would say.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: well, 2 is the dose is the recommended dose, so 4 would be would be an advanced dosage right? And I would say, if you were, gonna do that, I would say, take 2 and 2, I would say, don’t do any more than 4 and 4, not not because it’s gonna be a problem like it’s not gonna it’s not gonna hurt you, but it’s not gonna give you. I don’t think I don’t think taking 8 is gonna give you any more benefits than taking 4. So I would just say, Take 2 in the morning, 2 in the evening, if you wanted to do an advanced dosage.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: Okay, so let me know in the discussion area of canvas. If you guys want any any particular days, or better, any particular times are better like I said before, we’re gonna keep trying to move this around so we can. We can hit as many people as possible. Let any of your colleagues know that if they wanna sign up you know, at this, at this $500 tuition before it goes up to 600 in January that we’ve got another couple of days, probably to to sign up for that.
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Dr. Shawn Talbott: and and I will see you. I’ll see you all next week. Alright, bye, bye.
